You are logged in as a guest. ( ) Trimble unlock codes cheap Jump to page: Now viewing page 1 50 messages per page:: - Message format Posted 9/8/2014 02:25 (#4061907) Subject: Trimble unlock codes cheap Just wondering if anyone out there has found a cheaper way to unlock RTK codes on the Trimble displays, I am trying find an alternate way to paying the $5000 in unlock codes to get RTK. Thanks Posted 9/8/2014 06:11 (#4061956 - in reply to #4061907) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap roaming sure.
Just find a dealer who is willing to sell them below cost. Posted 9/8/2014 07:34 (#4062078 - in reply to #4061956) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Central Nebraska From what I've gathered Trimble is very good protecting their prices and making sure their dealers understand the consequences of not selling for MSRP.It reminds me of the golf club industry. When I was involved in sales at a golf store the owner made it very clear. You can haggle on prices with anything in the store but what ever you do, do not advertise or leave any trail of selling a Callaway golf club for lower than MSRP. If they found out they would yank the dealership. Posted 9/8/2014 07:36 (#4062086 - in reply to #4061907) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap NE Nebraska I thought it was 2000 per unlock. 2000 from waas to Omni, 2000 from Omni to RTK.
Unless your unlocking a second reiciver for 2000 also? Posted 9/8/2014 08:36 (#4062198 - in reply to #4061907) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap precisiontechsupport.com It sounds more like to me you dont value your Precision Ag technician or salesmen. Hopefully everything works when you get it 'cheap' because the service bill they may charge you afterwards may start making up the difference quickly.
Posted 9/8/2014 08:47 (#4062211 - in reply to #4062198) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap That's not what I'm getting at nick. I'm just wanting to hear other people options. Posted 9/8/2014 08:54 (#4062222 - in reply to #4062211) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Buy used.
That's about the only way to get a deal on unlocks.somebody else already paid it. Other than that, maybe Guido down on the corner, in the dirty van can do it for you. Edited by midwest 9/8/2014 08:55 Posted 9/8/2014 09:17 (#4062251 - in reply to #4062198) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap East central Alberta. PrecisionAgSup - 9/8/2014 07:36 It sounds more like to me you dont value your Precision Ag technician or salesmen. Hopefully everything works when you get it 'cheap' because the service bill they may charge you afterwards may start making up the difference quickly. Trimble support people.I have seen Bigfoot or Elvis more often than I've ever seen a Trimble support person. It is just a agriculture myth isn't it??
Posted 9/8/2014 09:20 (#4062255 - in reply to #4062251) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap. PrecisionAgSup - 9/8/2014 07:36 It sounds more like to me you dont value your Precision Ag technician or salesmen. Hopefully everything works when you get it 'cheap' because the service bill they may charge you afterwards may start making up the difference quickly. Trimble support people.I have seen Bigfoot or Elvis more often than I've ever seen a Trimble support person. It is just a agriculture myth isn't it??
Thanks for giving me my laugh for the day Posted 9/8/2014 09:30 (#4062265 - in reply to #4061907) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap WEST CENTRAL MINNESOTA i know a great dealer willing to work with you. You can call and get prices. Email me if your interested Posted 9/8/2014 10:14 (#4062311 - in reply to #4062251) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap N/C Montana Trimble support from Triangle Ag in Northern Montana is top notch. Loaner always avail if anything does need to be repaired. Posted 9/8/2014 14:01 (#4062605 - in reply to #4062311) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Croatia Well you guys are really funny, milions of people are using cracked programs of all kind and I dont see anything wrong in asking if maybe there is some code generator for Trimble and other manufacturers. Or maybe some people that can get those codes for free somehow and sell it privately for any price they want.
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I would always buy it for best price possible, I dont have the need to support companies blindly with my hard earned money for their MRSP prices. Programs like John Deere Service Advisor is cracked and this will be also cracked once the critical people get involved with it. Posted 9/8/2014 14:52 (#4062640 - in reply to #4062605) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Don't be surprised when you end up complaining about a lack of innovation from the precision ag industry. Posted 9/8/2014 15:43 (#4062683 - in reply to #4061907) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Fargo, ND RTK unlock of the primary GPS receiver is $4,685. For the second receiver it's $6,685. I would say if a dealer ends up with excess inventory and needs to sell it down there may be deals out there. [email protected] Edited by daveb 9/8/2014 15:56 Posted 9/8/2014 19:58 (#4063013 - in reply to #4062605) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap roaming.
PowerUser - 9/8/2014 13:01 Or maybe some people that can get those codes for free somehow and sell it privately for any price they want. I would always buy it for best price possible, I dont have the need to support companies blindly with my hard earned money for their MRSP prices. Programs like John Deere Service Advisor is cracked and this will be also cracked once the critical people get involved with it.
I'm going to take this at face value and assume that you genuinely don't understand the software activation paradigm. I'd rather do that than assume you are ok with stealing, which is the alternative. In addition to the hardware that goes into a system (display, receiver, navigation controller of some sort, steering sensor, etc, etc. ), all of these electronics require software to operate. Software is a tricky business, because you can't see it, touch it, etc, so it's hard to think of it as a 'real' thing. But I assure you that if you're a software developer who puts time and effort into creating a piece of software, it is very definitely 'real', and it has value. Determining the value of a piece of software is also a tricky business.
The manufacturer/developer needs to recoup development costs, but they also need to stay competitive. If their development costs are very low (because the software is poor quality, or because the manufacturer snagged some genius interns who work for pennies, or for any other reason ), then they may actually be inflating the value of the software if they sell it at a price that is close to other similar software on the market.
But if development costs are not low (almost always true ), the market value of the software (retail price ) is likely breaking even or losing money. In some cases that's acceptable, in others it's not. That's yet a separate issue. Software can be provided at no additional cost to the purchaser, if the price of the hardware is inflated.
And in many cases in precision ag (and elsewhere ) it is. But in the case of software that has optional features (like accuracy unlocks for a GPS receiver ), users of low-accuracy signals don't want to purchase overpriced hardware that would in effect be subsidizing the accuracy unlocks for everyone else.
So manufacturers value the software incrementally, and provide certain features at certain price points, protected by activation codes. That way those who need the features pay for them, and those who don't need the features pay less. Using 'cracked' software (software you are using without paying for some features ) is no different than taking/using hardware without paying for it. Just because you can't see the software, and it seems 'unfair' that you have to pay activation fees to get full functionality out of a piece of hardware you already own, doesn't change the fact that it would be a pretty clear case of 'theft by unauthorized taking or transfer' under the law, not to mention a violation of the software license agreement, etc. If the idea of paying activation fees rubs you the wrong way, tell your dealer up front that you just want the bottom line price for a system that will do 'X', and he'll be happy to shield you from the pain of seeing the unlock code prices that are required to get there. Posted 9/8/2014 21:39 (#4063333 - in reply to #4063013) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap North Central IN.
PowerUser - 9/8/2014 13:01 Or maybe some people that can get those codes for free somehow and sell it privately for any price they want. I would always buy it for best price possible, I dont have the need to support companies blindly with my hard earned money for their MRSP prices.
Programs like John Deere Service Advisor is cracked and this will be also cracked once the critical people get involved with it. I'm going to take this at face value and assume that you genuinely don't understand the software activation paradigm.
I'd rather do that than assume you are ok with stealing, which is the alternative. In addition to the hardware that goes into a system (display, receiver, navigation controller of some sort, steering sensor, etc, etc. ), all of these electronics require software to operate. Software is a tricky business, because you can't see it, touch it, etc, so it's hard to think of it as a 'real' thing. But I assure you that if you're a software developer who puts time and effort into creating a piece of software, it is very definitely 'real', and it has value. Determining the value of a piece of software is also a tricky business.
The manufacturer/developer needs to recoup development costs, but they also need to stay competitive. If their development costs are very low (because the software is poor quality, or because the manufacturer snagged some genius interns who work for pennies, or for any other reason ), then they may actually be inflating the value of the software if they sell it at a price that is close to other similar software on the market. But if development costs are not low (almost always true ), the market value of the software (retail price ) is likely breaking even or losing money.
In some cases that's acceptable, in others it's not. That's yet a separate issue. Software can be provided at no additional cost to the purchaser, if the price of the hardware is inflated. And in many cases in precision ag (and elsewhere ) it is.
But in the case of software that has optional features (like accuracy unlocks for a GPS receiver ), users of low-accuracy signals don't want to purchase overpriced hardware that would in effect be subsidizing the accuracy unlocks for everyone else. So manufacturers value the software incrementally, and provide certain features at certain price points, protected by activation codes. That way those who need the features pay for them, and those who don't need the features pay less. Using 'cracked' software (software you are using without paying for some features ) is no different than taking/using hardware without paying for it. Just because you can't see the software, and it seems 'unfair' that you have to pay activation fees to get full functionality out of a piece of hardware you already own, doesn't change the fact that it would be a pretty clear case of 'theft by unauthorized taking or transfer' under the law, not to mention a violation of the software license agreement, etc.
If the idea of paying activation fees rubs you the wrong way, tell your dealer up front that you just want the bottom line price for a system that will do 'X', and he'll be happy to shield you from the pain of seeing the unlock code prices that are required to get there. Excellent response!100! Posted 9/8/2014 21:42 (#4063348 - in reply to #4062683) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap NC Once a system is unlocked are there any yearly subscription fees? Example if I buy a system unlocked to rtk are there any addition cost associated with using that system?
Posted 9/8/2014 21:55 (#4063392 - in reply to #4063348) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap only if you don't happen to have your own RTK base Posted 9/9/2014 00:23 (#4063622 - in reply to #4063013) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Agree with 100% of what you said.now I have a question What about running a third party software on purchased hardware? Its pretty far fetched, but lets assume that some enterprising young genius developed software that could be installed over the existing program? This is how tuners work for trucks, they overwrite the program installed at the factory. I have an old home wireless router that I've installed DD-WRT software on.
That software blows the factory software out of the water in terms of options and functionality. And that software is also free to DL and use. People do is just for the fun of it.
What is some small 3rd party tech company developed a way to overwrite the software of the FmX to 'unlock' all the features? It would certainly void any warranty, but would that actually be illegal?
Or unethical? Posted 9/9/2014 06:56 (#4063772 - in reply to #4062222) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap ECIL. Midwest - 9/8/2014 08:54 Buy used.
That's about the only way to get a deal on unlocks.somebody else already paid it. +100 That's how I've been buying much of my precision ag equipment, let someone else take the beating on the unlocks, etc. I bought a 252 reciever unlocked to RTK w/ a 450 mHz joey radio for 1700 a few months ago from a dealer that is switching to cell based RTK. Have my own base, so the 450 will work great for me as long as I keep my base around. Posted 9/9/2014 13:41 (#4064414 - in reply to #4063622) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Middlesex County, Ontario Obama recently made it perfectly legal to unlock cell phones through code generators or installing different firmware or however you want. You own the hardware, you now get to decide how you use it. I think (but am not sure ) you would be within the law to replace Trimble's software with your own software that unlocks all the features of the hardware.
Posted 9/9/2014 13:46 (#4064417 - in reply to #4063348) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Middlesex County, Ontario. Hunter26 - 9/8/2014 22:42 Once a system is unlocked are there any yearly subscription fees? Example if I buy a system unlocked to rtk are there any addition cost associated with using that system? There is no yearly subscription fee to own a RTK unlocked system. But if you actually want to use that RTK unlock you will need a base station. If you are going to use someone else's base station they will charge you for that service. Posted 9/9/2014 19:50 (#4064959 - in reply to #4063622) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap roaming.
00rooster - 9/8/2014 23:23 Agree with 100% of what you said.now I have a question What about running a third party software on purchased hardware? Its pretty far fetched, but lets assume that some enterprising young genius developed software that could be installed over the existing program?
This is how tuners work for trucks, they overwrite the program installed at the factory. I have an old home wireless router that I've installed DD-WRT software on. That software blows the factory software out of the water in terms of options and functionality. And that software is also free to DL and use. People do is just for the fun of it. What is some small 3rd party tech company developed a way to overwrite the software of the FmX to 'unlock' all the features? It would certainly void any warranty, but would that actually be illegal?
Or unethical? Great question. Interestingly, I also run a router with aftermarket software (Tomato ).
I haven't read the user agreements for an FM-1000 or AgLeader Integra, etc, but my general guess is that while you actually OWN the hardware, you only own a license to USE the software (within the limits of certain terms and conditions - i.e. This is how most software works.
So if you wanted to develop your own software to run on purchased hardware, the hardware manufacturer would have no legal recourse to prevent you from doing that, unless there is a clause in the EULA that prevents you from reverse-engineering software or hardware, which I think.should. be legally unenforceable unless you profit from such reverse-engineering (i.e. Selling trade secrets ) or deprive the mfr of profits (i.e.
Figuring out the unlock algorithm and providing free unlocks ). But I am not a lawyer.:- ) I'm a big fan of the. EDIT TO ADD this info from Trimble's Terms & Conditions. 1.4 Software Licenses: If a Product order includes software (whether built into hardware circuitry as firmware, provided as a standalone computer software product, provided as a hosted service, embedded in flash memory, or stored on magnetic or other media ), such software is licensed, not sold, and Buyer is granted a non-exclusive, non-assignable right to use the Product software for no other purpose than that of operating the TRIMBLE Product (s ) furnished under these Terms.
If accompanied by a separate end user license, terms of service or terms of use, use of any such software or service will be subject to such separate terms (including any differing limited warranty terms exclusions and limitations ). Nothing herein shall be construed to grant any rights or license to use any software in any manner or for any purpose not expressly permitted by the TRIMBLE license.
Edited by torn 9/15/2014 14:46 Posted 9/9/2014 19:59 (#4064992 - in reply to #4064414) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap roaming. WildBuckwheat - 9/9/2014 12:41 I think (but am not sure ) you would be within the law to replace Trimble's software with your own software that unlocks all the features of the hardware. It would be interesting to know if any of the hardware firmware (i.e. Radio firmware, CAN chip firmware ) is programmed to request an identifier of some sort from the operating software, to validate that it is in fact 'official' software running on the device. If the wrong ID or no ID is provided, then the hardware doesn't function properly.
This would require reverse engineering of the hardware firmware, or development of new hardware firmware, to overcome. Posted 9/13/2014 08:34 (#4071942 - in reply to #4064959) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap Alberta This is quite an interesting post. I understand the costs associated with developing software but the costs of unlocks are high in my opinion.
My solution so far is to buy used. What I am confused by is that the software is in my receiver, just needs to unlocked. If the unlocks were half the costs more people would be running higher corrections, and we all know more accuracy is like an addiction so the would sell more rtk subscriptions, xp etc plus guys would be generally happier with their equipment. As far as hacking it, just because everyone is doing it is it legal is a grey area. Does nobody share their cable or sat tv, what about chipping your tractor instead of buying the next bigger one, google docs instead of paying microsoft, the list goes on and on. The difference is we are in ag & the number of people using is small so hacks are very unlikely. Curt Posted 9/15/2014 14:54 (#4075858 - in reply to #4071942) Subject: RE: Trimble unlock codes cheap roaming.
Disker - 9/13/2014 07:34 As far as hacking it, just because everyone is doing it is it legal is a grey area. Does nobody share their cable or sat tv, what about chipping your tractor instead of buying the next bigger one, google docs instead of paying microsoft, the list goes on and on. The difference is we are in ag & the number of people using is small so hacks are very unlikely.
Curt sharing cable or chipping a tractor is completely different from Google Docs vs Microsoft Office. Docs is a completely separate and competitive service, so using it is not a misuse (or even potential misuse ) of Microsoft Office, it is simply ignoring MS Office altogether. It would be comparable to subscribing to Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Prime to watch your cable shows, vs actually subscribing to cable. Or buying a Brand A tractor with more horsepower for less money than a Brand X tractor with less horsepower. Jump to page: Now viewing page 1 50 messages per page Jump to forum:.
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